Cardinals Manager Mike Matheny on Baseball, Manhood, and Faith
Editor’s note: Darrin Patrick, TGC Council member and lead pastor of The Journey Church, is the chaplain to the St. Louis Cardinals. For this interview Patrick talked with Mike Matheny, manager of this historic professional baseball team, about how Matheny found faith in Jesus Christ and how he relates the members of his team and staff who are not Christian.
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Darrin Patrick | One of the metaphors in Scriptures, we see in the life of Jacob, is wrestling with God. How did God win in your life?
Mike Matheny | I’m glad he won.
I grew up in strong Christian family and became very religious. Once a challenging guest speaker visited our church and asked the usual Christian crowd, “Do you know who Jesus is? Who is he to you?” And those questions kept haunting me. I was wrestling with God. I realized I had been riding on the coat-tails of my parents. I was in the routine of religion, but there was no relationship there. My parents were there to open up the Bible and lead me through the gospel, and I responded with faith on my own.
DP | How did it change your life?
MM | It became real instead of routine, even as a young kid. I wasn’t walking through the public school high schools with my Bible, preaching. But all of a sudden, there was a sense of rightness—that’s where I was supposed to be. I felt guidance through every day and accountability—through the Spirit’s hand—giving me a slap in the back of the head when I was going in a direction I shouldn’t. God was an ever-present guide, my peace and joy. It was the package deal promised to us in Scripture.
DP | I’ll never forget, it was the National League Championship Series in 2013. It was before the game, we’re doing our prayer time, like we did before every home playoff game, and I walked in and saw you playing and worshiping.
MM | It might have been the last game against Los Angeles. And you came in and were blown away. You actually took a picture and said, “I want to show my wife what you do to prepare for a game!”
I do a lot of praise and worship. And it helps the time go by on the road, but I don’t do it a lot at home. But that was special how that group got together before every game. And it started out as a few guys, and ended up with 20-plus guys in this room. We just stopped and gave God a little bit of our time. Let’s slow down and realize how cool it is that we are where we are right now and not praying necessarily, “Let’s win.” We just prayed that we would go out and do things the way we’re supposed to do it.
DP | How would you encourage and challenge Christian men?